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This week’s guest is comedian Tom Webb. This is a slightly unusual edition of the show, in that there is a curious lack of books, but Tom and host Charles Adrian have much fun discussing facebook, Scott Capurro and The Dice Man by Luke Rhinehart. Incidentally – in case you are looking for connections – the last track is from the album The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars. And Tom’s surname is Webb. You know… just in case you were wondering.
This episode was recorded at the Wilton Way Cafe for London Fields Radio.
This episode has been edited to remove music that is no longer covered by licence for this podcast.
A transcript of this episode is below.
Episode released: 23rd October, 2012.
Book listing:
Fowl Play by Scott Capurro
The Dice Man by Luke Rhinehart
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Episode transcript:
Jingle
You're listening... you're listening to London Fields Radio.
Charles Adrian
Hello. Welcome again to London Fields Radio, to Page One. This is the 3rd edition of the Second Hand Book Factory. My name's Charles Adrian, I'm in the Wilton Way Cafe, and sitting opposite me is Tom Webb, who I will introduce in a moment. Now this, as Tom may or may not realise, is the week that Skyfall comes out in the cinema and, with that in mind, here is my favourite Bond theme. I don't know if this is a controversial choice or not. I know I should probably have chosen The Living Daylights but I haven't. It's Carly Simon with Nobody Does It Better.
Music
[Nobody Does It Better by Carly Simon]
Charles Adrian
There we go. That was Carly Simon with Nobody Does It Better. We were talking about other Bond themes that I could have chosen. Shirley Bassey, actually, might even beat that. I'm not sure. Diamonds Are Forever is a good... Anyway, I should say hello to Tom. Tom... Hello!
Tom Webb
Hello.
Charles Adrian
So you are Tom Webb.
Tom Webb
Speaking.
Charles Adrian
How would you describe yourself? If this was... If this were a magazine article on you...
Tom Webb
Yeah.
Charles Adrian
... and it said Tom Webb comma, what would come after the comma?
Tom Webb
Tired. [laughs] Reluctantly.
Charles Adrian
Okay. [laughs]
Tom Webb
I'm a comedian.
Charles Adrian
[affirmative] Mmm hmm.
Tom Webb
I am a man, a resident of Hackney.
Charles Adrian
You're actually a Hackney resident?
Tom Webb
I'm a Hackneyite. Yeah.
Charles Adrian
You might be the first Hackney resident to be on this.
Tom Webb
Oh, exciting.
Charles Adrian
Wonderful. So, in a way, the Second Hand Book Factory comes home.
Tom Webb
[speaking over] This is... this is my local cafe.
Charles Adrian
This is your... really?
Tom Webb
Yeah, very... Well, very close.
Charles Adrian
Okay. Have you been in here before
Tom Webb
I have been in here before.
Charles Adrian
Wow.
Tom Webb
Enjoyed a coffee. Lovely coffee.
Charles Adrian
Very nice.
Tom Webb
Yes.
Charles Adrian
Good. So: Tom Webb, comedian, tired and Hackney resident. That's what we're going to write. And we'll say you're...
Tom Webb
[speaking over] And the rest is mystery...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] The rest is mystery.
Tom Webb
[speaking over] ... perhaps be discovered throughout the show.
Charles Adrian
Exactly. We'll say you're twenty-seven or thereabouts.
Tom Webb
[speaking over] Well I'm not. [laughs]
Charles Adrian
No, but in brackets. That's what we're going to... “Tom Webb (27)”...
Tom Webb
Of course, I'm a mere seventeen.
Charles Adrian
Yeah. [laughs]
Tom Webb
Sprightly and young.
Charles Adrian
Sitting youthfully opposite.
Tom Webb
[laughs]
Charles Adrian
And I was... Actually, I was just reminded because Skyfall is coming... I'm actually... I'm a little bit excited about Skyfall coming out...
Tom Webb
[speaking over] Yeah yeah.
Charles Adrian
Did you... did you see the man who fell from the sky? This will be last week... By the time this radio... this... this show comes... most people will have forgotten by now...
Tom Webb
[speaking over] The man who fell from the sky. No.
Charles Adrian
The man who jumped from space and...
Tom Webb
Oh! No, I didn't.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] ... he landed on his feet...
Tom Webb
No, I followed it...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] ... on the ground.
Tom Webb
... on Twitter.
Charles Adrian
Did you? But you didn't see it?
Tom Webb
But I didn't see it, no.
Charles Adrian
You have to go and see it. And anyone listening who hasn't seen... especially the footage of him just standing on the edge of his capsule.
Tom Webb
Yeah.
Charles Adrian
It's just extraordinary.
Tom Webb
How long did it take him to fall?
Charles Adrian
I can't remember. About ten minutes? Maybe a bit less?
Tom Webb
Ages, isn't it.
Charles Adrian
Well, given that it took him two and a half hours...
Tom Webb
[speaking over] You could do a Sudoku in that time.
Charles Adrian
... to get up there.
Tom Webb
Yeah yeah.
Charles Adrian
But you're right. That is quite... That's quite long to fall, isn't it.
Tom Webb
Yeah, I would... I would have... I mean, I suspect it wasn't boring. But I could imagine with my...
Charles Adrian
[laughs]
Tom Webb
... attention span, after, sort of, two or three minutes, I'd be, like: “Oh come on”.
Charles Adrian
He did say he didn't really notice that he... he was going faster than the speed of sound.
Tom and Charles Adrian
[laughter]
Tom Webb
Oh was he? Could he hear himself breaking the sound barrier? Just [makes growling noise].
Charles Adrian
No, he didn't hear anything, I don't think.
Tom Webb
Because the sound's behind him.
Charles Adrian
This... [laughing] Presumably, yes.
Tom Webb
Leaving that behind.
Charles Adrian
Yes.
Tom Webb
You could, sort of, shout at yourself and run away from your own voice, couldn't you.
Charles Adrian
That would be amazing... I didn't know if it would then catch up with you later as you... as you slow down.
Tom and Charles Adrian
[laughter]
Tom Webb
Well, it always does catch up with you, doesn't it, karmically.
Charles Adrian
So, Tom, I've asked you to bring a book that you liked and a book that you think I should have. That's... That's how the Second Hand Book Factory works.
Tom Webb
Yeah.
Charles Adrian
Let's start with the book that you like.
Tom Webb
Okay.
Charles Adrian
What have you brought for us?
Tom Webb
Well, it's something that I've been reading for a few years now. It's... It's... It's, like, an electronic book but I think it's...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] That's allowed.
Tom Webb
... sort of, pre-Kindle. And it's like an adventure role play. It, sort of, changes all the time...
Charles Adrian
[affirmative] Mmm hmm.
Tom Webb
... and you develop your character. I'm not sure how you win.
Charles Adrian
Okay.
Tom Webb
It's called Facebook...
Charles Adrian
Right.
Tom Webb
... and you, sort of, go about your day, try and do as many “events”, they're called, as possible...
Charles Adrian
Yeah.
Tom Webb
... and collect, like, a group of friends. It's sort of like entourage. There's lots of trolls...
Charles Adrian
Okay.
Tom Webb
... in it. And you just... “like” things is also good... more.... If people like things...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Aha.
Tom Webb
... then you're doing quite well...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Then you're doing well.
Tom Webb
... at Facebook. Yeah.
Charles Adrian
Okay. And can you read for us the first page of that?
Tom Webb
Yeah. It's a good one today.
Charles Adrian
Okay.
Tom Webb
It starts with “Sort” and then “Status”, “Photo” and “Check in” and then it asks a question, which is interesting.
Charles Adrian
[affirmative] Mmm hmm.
Tom Webb
“What's on your mind?” And then you can actually write in that. You can enter that and that's not defacing Facebook. It's not like a library book. That's your book to keep so you can... you can write in it...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] I see.
Tom Webb
... you can fill it in.
Charles Adrian
Yeah.
Tom Webb
It doesn't matter what you write in there but sometimes people 'like' it. So you might say: “Oh, sausages are on my mind.” And then, if you do a picture as well, people often “like” it. They really like animals. If you do...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Aha.
Tom Webb
... like, a picture of an animal, particularly a young animal...
Charles Adrian
Right.
Tom Webb
... often 'like' it a lot. And then you might say, like: “Can has cheezburger” and people go nuts for that. “Like”, “like”, “like”, “like”, “like”, and then you've won at Facebook for that... for that day.
Charles Adrian
That sounds... that sounds amazing. So...
Tom Webb
It's a pretty good read.
Charles Adrian
... for those of us who haven't read Facebook, um...
Tom Webb
Get involved! It's free!
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] ... yeah. Fantastic. Shall I just play a... Shall I just play some more music?
Tom Webb
Yep.
Tom and Charles Adrian
[laughter]
Tom Webb
What're you going to play?
Charles Adrian
I... So I... I also asked you to suggest some music that I could play...
Tom Webb
Yep.
Charles Adrian
... you know, just in case there was something that you... that you wanted to... and you said something like “Not bothered” or “Whatever you like” I can't remember what you actually...
Tom Webb
[speaking over] No... No... but I'm... Well, I think I said: “Whatever you like”.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] ... what you actually said... “Go for it”...
Tom Webb
[speaking over] ... 'cause I always find...
Charles Adrian
... or “Choose something...”
Tom Webb
I like to be encouraging.
Charles Adrian
Yes.
Tom Webb
'Cause I find, like, if you go to someone's house for a party or a dinner party, I like it when they play the music they like because hopefully you'll discover something new...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Yes. I see. Mmm hmm.
Tom Webb
... 'cause I know what I like...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Yeah. Yeah.
Tom Webb
... I'm very happy to share that. I just, sort of, feel like someone should come to my house, as it were. So if you came on my radio show or came to my comedy night, you would hear the music that I [indistinct]...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Then... I see... So that's... Okay. Right.
Tom Webb
[speaking over] ... this is my offering. But I quite like coming here and you...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] No it's true. You've kind of exposed the laziness of my concept, which is... which is: the less I have to do the better, as far as I'm concerned.
Tom Webb
[speaking over] Oh, very clever.
Charles Adrian
But. But. So what I... I did, actually... I did... I did take your challenge, as it were...
Tom Webb
Yeah.
Charles Adrian
... and what I did, I put into my iTunes, on my computer... I just put in the name “Tom Webb”...
Tom Webb
Alright.
Charles Adrian
... and this is... this is absolutely... honestly, this is what it came up with - and I don't know why...
Tom Webb
Yeah.
Charles Adrian
... but I... I'm rather excited because I haven't listened to this for a while. This is something that's been on... you know, in my library...
Tom Webb
[speaking over] But if you type in “Search for Tom Webb” in your...
Charles Adrian
[affirmative] Mmm hmm.
Tom Webb
... Adrian Charles's...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] ... in my library. Yeah.
Tom Webb
[speaking over] ... in your library, this...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] I just put “Tom Webb” and what it comes up with is Nina Simone...
Tom Webb
Oh!
Charles Adrian
... singing Do What You Gotta Do.
Tom Webb
Brilliant song. Yeah, yeah. Great!
Charles Adrian
So that's what I'm going to play.
Music
[Do What You Gotta Do by Nina Simone]
Tom Webb
Oh, I'm very flattered.
Charles Adrian
Now we... Yeah we... So we were just talking, Tom and I, while that track was going on...
Tom Webb
Little detectives!
Charles Adrian
We were! Because I... So I tried it again. It doesn't... I must have lied. It doesn't come up if you write in “Tom Webb” but if you write in...
Tom Webb
[speaking over] Well, embellished the truth. Yeah.
Charles Adrian
... “T Webb” or “Webb” you do get that track and Tom had a brainwave...
Tom Webb
We dug around in your computer.
Charles Adrian
We did, and we discovered that that track was actually written by somebody called Webb.
Tom Webb
Yeah. Composed.
Charles Adrian
Composed, sorry! Written! Composed by someone called Webb.
Tom Webb
[speaking over] I think it's the same thing, isn't it?
Charles Adrian
I don't know if it is.
Tom Webb
I was quite surprised, though, because I thought Nina Simone wrote her own songs.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Yes. She... she wrote a lot of them. She played a lot of them, didn't she...
Tom Webb
[speaking over] [indistinct] Yes.
Charles Adrian
... on the piano, I think she wrote a lot of the piano parts.
Tom Webb
[speaking over] I thought she composed.
Charles Adrian
Well maybe... maybe she composed using the name Webb. Who knows?
Tom Webb
Works for me.
Charles Adrian
Who knows? I'm going to move... I'm going to move on to the second section, which is, in a sense, the only part of this show that works as it should do.
Tom Webb
[laughs]
Charles Adrian
This... This... This is where I get to create a second hand book. This is why this is called - just for your information, Tom, because I know you haven't been paying attention thus far...
Tom Webb
No. Sorry. [laughs]
Charles Adrian
This is the Second Hand Book Factory and the reason it's called that is because I'm going to give you a book and that will then become a second hand book. This was a new book when I... when I bought it but I read it and I... I know you're not a reader. We did have this conversation and... So I
Tom Webb
I mean, I'm really embarrassed because you highlighted the fact that I don't think I've read a book for two years and I was an avid reader.
Charles Adrian
Were you?
Tom Webb
Yeah. Really, really avid reader... [indistinct]
Charles Adrian
So this isn't something that's always been the case?
Tom Webb
No, not at all. And... And it really highlighted the lacuna in my...
Charles Adrian
Well perhaps this is going to kick-start you.
Tom Webb
Yeah, I hope so. I mean, I've got a pile of books at home.
Charles Adrian
Right.
Tom Webb
I do still, sort of, collect books and keep meaning to read them. And I think now it's got s... [laughs] so towering, so Babel-like...
Charles Adrian
I was going to say, there... there does come a point at which it's just... there are too many books, presumably, and you can't even...
Tom Webb
[speaking over] Yes, a little bit. And, equally, I think one of the reasons I stopped reading was I stumbled upon too many books which I didn't enjoy.
Charles Adrian
Right.
Tom Webb
And you know how tiring that can be...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] It can be very tiring.
Tom Webb
[speaking over] ... and painful...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Yes.
Tom Webb
[speaking over] ... and you get, sort of, fifty pages in and you go: “Oh, I've just wasted the evening, haven't I? This is just bad, in my opinion”.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] It's a sad thought, isn't it.
Tom Webb
And I think it's a few... a few slaps in the face... literary slaps in the face like that...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] I see.
Tom Webb
... and after a while... [depressed noise]
Charles Adrian
Some... Just some bad choices on your part.
Tom Webb
It's always my fault, yes. Or we could blame the writers.
Charles Adrian
I think that's...
Tom Webb
[speaking over] Word composers.
Tom and Charles Adrian
[laughter]
Charles Adrian
That seems facile to me. I'm going to...
Tom Webb
[laughs]
Charles Adrian
I'm going to give you... I'm going to give you a book by Scott Capurro because you're a comedian and Scott is a comedian and...
Tom Webb
Scott's my friend.
Charles Adrian
Really? Are you friends with...
Tom Webb
[speaking over] Yeah. He lives round here.
Charles Adrian
Does he really?
Tom Webb
Yeah. Yeah.
Charles Adrian
That... I should know that because I... I did go to his flat once.
Tom Webb
Well, then you would know. [laughs]
Charles Adrian
I... [laughs] It was... [indistinct]... a long time ago and I didn't know where we were at that... I mean, I must have... He must have told me to come to a particular train station and then to go from there but I don't know... I have no memory of where it was.
Tom Webb
[speaking over] Well, this really feels like a story we should discuss further. [laughs]
Charles Adrian
We'll do that during one of the musical breaks.
Tom Webb
[laughing] Good.
Charles Adrian
This is... This is his novel... or one of his novels. I feel ignorant suddenly. It's... It's called Fowl Play.
Tom Webb
Clever.
Charles Adrian
Midweek says: “Not suitable for polite society.”
Tom Webb
Because it's fowl like a bird. It's got chickens...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] It is. There are pictures of naked chickens on the front.
Tom Webb
[speaking over] Naked... naked chickens... Plucked chickens.
Charles Adrian
It's a disgusting book. I think... I think...
Tom Webb
[speaking over] Oh is it?
Charles Adrian
... you might quite enjoy it.
Tom Webb
[speaking over] Also, I've seen the top line on the back cover.
Charles Adrian
Yes.
Tom Webb
Loving it already. It reads: “Tom is a comedian”.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Actu... [laughs]
Tom Webb
It couldn't be better.
Charles Adrian
It couldn't be better.
Tom Webb
Did you know... Did you know?
Charles Adrian
I'm going to pretend that I did.
Tom Webb
Alright. [laughs] We've done a lot of prep for this show.
Tom and Charles Adrian
[laughter]
Charles Adrian
My... my process was: “Ha! A comedian. Tom's a comedian. He'll like this.”
Tom Webb
[laughs]
Charles Adrian
Chapter One…
I'm going to read... I'm going to switch off your mic so that you don't disturb me for a couple of minutes and I'm going to read you the first page of Fowl Play by Scott Capurro:
Chapter One
Chicken must be plucked
‘Yellow,’ he said.
‘Huh?’
‘That's our code word. Yellow. When I say that, you stop.’
‘Okay. Stop what?
‘Whatever you're doing. That means that the fantasy is over or that you've gone too far.’
‘Fine.’
Later, he moaned: ‘Stop.’ So I did.
‘No, don't stop now. Keep pulling. Only stop when I say yellow.’ But when I saw tears, I pulled out.
‘What are you doing?’
‘You look upset.’
‘I'm fine. Don't stop.’
‘Unless you say... hello?’
‘No! Yellow!’
‘Sorry. Yellow. Got it.’
Tom Webb
The origins there to Chris Martin's Coldplay Song, I believe.
Charles Adrian
Yes. Which I... Which I obviously could have played now. That would have been a logical choice...
Tom Webb
[laughs]
Charles Adrian
... for music. But instead...
Tom Webb
Thank you. I'm really... I'm really grateful for this. Thank you.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] ... as I pass over... as I pass over this book. I... So I hope... I hope, having heard the first page, you're... you're... - and that's the whole first chapter, actually - you will be sufficiently intrigued...
Tom Webb
Oh... I'll definitely read it.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] ... to dive in.
Tom Webb
Do you know, I'm so embarrassed to say, because Scott is a friend of mine... I didn't know he'd banged out any books.
Charles Adrian
He did... He did. I mean, he's a... he's...
Tom Webb
[indistinct]
Charles Adrian
... you are both... you are both one of my favourite comedians.
Tom Webb
Well, thank you.
Charles Adrian
And...
Tom Webb
Very different comedians,
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] ... I'm waiting... Very different styles. I'm waiting for your book to bang out.
Tom Webb
I'll have to...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] When will that happen?
Tom Webb
I'll have to start banging on it.
Charles Adrian
You will.
Tom Webb
I've written a film. I've been working on a film.
Charles Adrian
Okay. I'm going to play...
Tom Webb
[laughs]
Charles Adrian
... I'm going to play a track by Blue now. Blue is a band that may or may not exist, but when it did exist, you may remember, Tom, that it featured your namesake Simon Webb...
Tom Webb
Simon Webb.
Charles Adrian
.. and that's the reason why I'm going to play Too Close.
Tom Webb
[Too Close by Blue]
Jingle
London Fields Radio... it's London Fields Radio.
Charles Adrian
It is, it's London Fields Radio. I'm here with Tom Webb for Page One, the Second Hand Book Factory. And ... And now we come to what could... could be the most awkward part of today's show. It's already been a little bit awkward, I think.
Tom Webb
[laughing] Why would you say that?
Charles Adrian
This is the part of the show where you would normally...
Tom Webb
Yeah.
Charles Adrian
... give me a book that you think I should have. That's... That's really the...
Tom Webb
Oh I see.
Charles Adrian
So there's a, sort of, reciprocal arrangement. I've given you a book that I think you should have and... and you give me a book... you give me a little bit of your soul, essentially. And what you're giving me is...
Tom Webb
And I haven't done that at all.
Charles Adrian
No. Nothing.
Tom Webb
I'm feeling very selfish. [laughs] [indistinct]
Charles Adrian
It is lovely to have you here.
Tom Webb
Thank you for having me.
Charles Adrian
It's very nice to sit and talk to you across the... the... the whatever wood this is of the counter.
Tom Webb
Maple?
Charles Adrian
Could be. I'm not an expert.
Tom Webb
Beech. Nice light wood.
Charles Adrian
Mmm.
Tom Webb
It's a lovely colour.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] What book would you have brought? If you'd...
[electrical interference]
Charles Adrian
... If... Now... Now you think about it, have... Is that your phone that's making the... Did you... Did you switch it off?
Tom Webb
[speaking over] Sorry, I turned it... I turned it back on...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] You turned it back on, didn't you.
Tom Webb
... to do my Facebook joke...
Charles Adrian
Yes.
Tom Webb
... which I'm sure listeners are still lolling at.
Charles Adrian
I imagine they are.
Tom Webb
Ah... My favorite books... most influential books for me were... I really enjoyed The Dice Man.
Charles Adrian
I haven't heard of The Dice Man.
Tom Webb
Luke Reinhardt's book, which I read in my early teens... found that very influential. It's about a character - I think his name was Max but I could be wrong...
Charles Adrian
Okay.
Tom Webb
... and he starts to consider the endless notion of the human psyche and how one choice is not necessarily better or more important than another choice...
Charles Adrian
Ah.
Tom Webb
... and thus starts governing his entire life by the roll of a dice, making six choices. And more often than not the choices would be completely innocuous. Just...
Charles Adrian
Yes.
Tom Webb
... shall I have toast or shall I have cereal.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Yes.
Tom Webb
And then, perhaps, one of those choices would be, like: I won't have anything, I'll just go and have sex with a prostitute. Or something remarkably avant garde in his world. It's a good book. It's a very fun, enjoyable book, so... [indistinct]
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] No, it sounds like a great... Let's... I think we should pretend that you have given that to me.
Tom Webb
I'll just go and buy it and then I'll give it to you.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Give it... Send it to me.
Tom Webb
[speaking over] Yeah. We'll do that.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] I think that would be wonderful. I would love that.
Tom Webb
[speaking over] Yeah. I might now read it again.
Charles Adrian
Let's... let's come back to this, perhaps...
Tom Webb
Yeah. Yeah yeah.
Charles Adrian
In... In ten years time I'll invite you back on...
Tom Webb
[speaking over] Had you not heard of that book, though? I thought it was quite a...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] No, I've never heard of it.
Tom Webb
[speaking over] ... seminal, sort of, teen book. You read that and...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] No. I don... What was I...?
Tom Webb
[speaking over] ... Catch 22 and 1984 and...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Right.
Tom Webb
... On The Road.
Charles Adrian
Yes, I did... Those three: tick, tick tick.
Tom Webb
Oh I... I thought it was definitely in that cannon.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] The Dice... The Dice Man... It might well have been, but I was also reading... I was reading even more pretentious books than that at that point.
Tom Webb
[laughs]
Charles Adrian
[laughs] I was reading D. H. Lawrence, I think, and... and thinking: “Oh, how wonderful! Love is like a cathedral.” And similar thoughts.
Tom Webb
Cold.
Charles Adrian
Lofty.
Tom Webb
Lofty.
Charles Adrian
I'm del... I'm delighted that you came and I'm... I've really enjoyed... I've really enjoyed talking to you. Almost as much as if we'd just sat and had a coffee and not had the pressure of... of having to put this out on the radio next week.
Tom Webb
I feel we should just record all of our conversations.
Charles Adrian
Perhaps we should.
Tom Webb
This is... This is gold.
Charles Adrian
So I'm going to finish with... I'm going to finish with some music.
Tom and Charles Adrian
[laughter]
Tom Webb
Wonderful.
Charles Adrian
Ladies and gentlemen, this is... this is Five Years by David Bowie.
Music
[Five Years by David Bowie]
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