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Episode image is a photograph of the cover of The Essays Of Emerson by Ralph Waldo Emerson, published in 1921 by Oxford University Press.
Joining Charles Adrian for the first Page One of the new year is Gloria Sanders, who describes herself as an actress and an explorer. A little raucous in parts, a little subdued in others, this tenth Second Hand Book Factory is made up of talk about maps, locked-in syndrome and the over-soul. Music is by Ella, Johnny and Billie.
Correction: Jean-Dominique Bauby dictated his story not to his wife, as claimed by Charles Adrian during the course of this episode, but to ghost writer Claude Mendibil. More information about that here.
Essays by Ralph Waldo Emerson is also discussed in Page One 159.
This episode was recorded at the Wilton Way Café for London Fields Radio.
This episode has been edited to remove music that is no longer covered by licence for this podcast.
A transcript of this episode is below.
Episode released: 8th January, 2013.
Book listing:
Mrs P’s Journey by Sarah Hartley
The Diving Bell And The Butterfly by Jean-Dominique Bauby (trans. Jeremy Leggatt)
Essays by Ralph Waldo Emerson
Links:
Episode transcript:
Jingle
You're listening... you're listening to London Fields Radio.
Charles Adrian
Happy New Year. I'm Charles Adrian and this is Page One. This is the first Page One of the new year. This is the 17th Page One, it's the 10th Second Hand Book Factory. I'm here in the Wilton Way Cafe and before I introduce my guest I couldn't... I couldn't resist playing this.
Music
[Gloria from the Petite Messe Solonelle by Gioachino Rossini]
Charles Adrian
[laughing] So there we are. That was... That was Gloria from Rossini's Petite Messe Solonelle. Was that a surprise?
Gloria Sanders
That was such a surprise.
Charles Adrian
[laughs]
Gloria Sanders
That's the first time I've heard that in... in 2013 so thank you for that.
Charles Adrian
[laughing] Gloria Sanders, welcome to Page One.
[sound of something falling]
Charles Adrian
Oopsidaisy! So here we are [makes exaggerated noise of relief]! 2013! Things are... Things are... Things are going just as planned today. [in a more confidential tone] It is now recording...
Gloria Sanders
[laughs] Oh good.
Charles Adrian
[laughing] ... so feel free to say all of...
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] oh fantastic. Oh it was... it was nice to... nice to... nice to be here, Adrian.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] It was nice to have a practice, wasn't it?
Gloria Sanders
Yeah.
Charles Adrian
Gloria, how would you describe yourself?
Gloria Sanders
I would describe myself as an actress...
Charles Adrian
Yup.
Gloria Sanders
... and someone who likes finding new things, whether it's people or thi... actual things or words.
Charles Adrian
Okay.
Gloria Sanders
Yeah. Curious. I'm curious.
Charles Adrian
Do you think that's a noun that would cover that?
Gloria Sanders
Curi... [laughs] A noun? That's a thing word, isn't it?
Charles Adrian
[laughs] Yes. Actress and...
Gloria Sanders
Oh!
Charles Adrian
And...
Gloria Sanders
E... Explorer.
Charles Adrian
Good. Let's take that. Gloria Sanders, acstra [sic]... actress and explorer. I like that. Wow. So...
Gloria Sanders
[laughs] You didn't know that, did you?
Charles Adrian
No! There we go. So, yeah... no, I'm a little bit... I'm... I am a little bit turned around because we've... we've already done ten minutes of talking. Just... This is for the listeners' benefit. We did ten minutes of talking...
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] We did.
Charles Adrian
... and then I discovered that I hadn't been recording...
Gloria Sanders
That's Okay.
Charles Adrian
... but that's fine.
Gloria Sanders
Yeah. [clears throat]
Charles Adrian
Yeah. We'll just... We'll just carry on from where we...
Gloria Sanders
... left off.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] ... from where we left off because...
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] Or even not because that would have been the... I mean, I can.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] It would have been half-way... So...
Gloria Sanders
Yeah.
Charles Adrian
Let... let's just... Let's start with your book. I want to know...
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] Okay. Sure.
Charles Adrian
... what... So what have you brought with you?
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] I have brought for you today to share with you and the listeners, because I feel this is a book that everyone should read at some point in their life... It's called Mrs P's Journey and it's the story of the woman who mapped London. She created the Geographers' Map Company - she founded it - and she was called Phyllis Pearsall...
Charles Adrian
Okay.
Gloria Sanders
... and she was amazing.
Charles Adrian
So she was PP, in fact.
Gloria Sanders
She was PP.
Charles Adrian
And so what's... What... Which map did she actually...
Gloria Sanders
The A-Z.
Charles Adrian
A-Z.
Gloria Sanders
The A-Z.
Charles Adrian
Wow.
Gloria Sanders
Yeah,
Charles Adrian
And, as I pointed out before, that was... that was the map of Londoners, wasn't it...
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] It was the... the one.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] ... until very recently.
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] Yeah. 1936, I think she began to, yeah...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] I see. I see.
Gloria Sanders
... I know, right? And now, so every time we look at our phones... me trying to find my way here to this little enclave [/ɒŋkleɪv/]...
Charles Adrian
Yeah.
Gloria Sanders
... en clav [/enklæv/], I was... I was using that, you know? I was...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] You were basically resting on the work of...
Gloria Sanders
Of her.
Charles Adrian
... Mrs P.
Gloria Sanders
Mrs P.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Wow. I... That's very exci... I actually... I find maps very exciting in general...
Gloria Sanders
[affirmative] Mmm.
Charles Adrian
... and I do sometimes find myself just looking at maps to... you know, and imagining what might be there. Even... Even The A-Z.
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] Yeah. Yeah.
Charles Adrian
You flip to a page and think: What is on... I don't know... Perkins Row or...
Gloria Sanders
Because it's all so exact and...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Yes.
Gloria Sanders
... perfectly, you know... I mean, I'm awful with, like maths or anything like that, but the measurements. And you think: How many thousands of people are in that one little square, you know?
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Absolutely.
Gloria Sanders
Amazing.
Charles Adrian
So read us the first page of this book.
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] Sure. Okay.
Gloria Sanders
Chapter One: Tracing The Source. And the book is Mrs P's Journey.
Studying the map of a city is like reading the palm of a hand. Once you have spread it out and laid it flat it is impossible, for the first few seconds, to take everything in. But the longer you gaze at the riddle [sic] of lines, the more there is to see. Patterns start to form; then blink and you will be able to note the bold grooves, the high areas, the dips, the contours and the [sic] prominent markings. With a map, a topographical imprint of human history lies before you on a single sheet of paper. Plagues, fires, wars, health, poverty, revolutions, inventions, and constructions - all have left their imprint on the land. No amount of demolition or rebuilding and modernising can alter the core structure of a city.
So, too, will a hand portray and betray the past, whether it reveals soft skin and cosseted existence, or dark rivets chiselled by humility and sensitivity. And like hardened calluses, experiences cannot be sloughed away to reveal a clean, youthful appearance, they simply accumulate and patiently wait to reflect the future.
In the same way, the restless talents brought together in the personality of Phyllis Pearsall were not the result of creating a new soul, but of a fusion of fractious energy snatched from the generations before her. Destiny, it seems, branded her with a complex blueprint, addled by peaks and dales already trodden by her parents.
Few will recognise her name, which gives no hint of the fact that she was one of the twentieth century's most intriguing...
Charles Adrian
Amazing. I... One thing that I particularly like about that page is that it includes the word “slough” [/slʌf/], which is one of my favorite words.
Gloria Sanders
Is it really?
Charles Adrian
Yes, it really is. I love it.
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] Why? Why is it...?
Charles Adrian
I think because it's one of those tricky words that doesn't sound like it looks.
Gloria Sanders
No.
Charles Adrian
It's one of those wonderful [spelling] o u g h words which I remember teaching when I was... back when I was an English teacher and all... all foreign people go: “How are we supposed to know?”
Gloria Sanders
I know but even... even after you read... even after just reading that - “sloughed” [/slʌfd/] - I was like: hmm, ooo, should I have said “sloughed” [/slaʊd/]? Even... [laughing] Even though you know...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Right. Yes. [indistinct] Absolutely.
Gloria Sanders
... it does... it still makes you...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] No. It... You have a doubt. But it made me very happy.
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] It makes you duft!
Charles Adrian
[laughs] No. That doesn't... Because that's spelled with a 'b'.
Gloria Sanders
Yeah, whatever.
Charles Adrian
Let's play your first track, shall we? I was... I... Yeah, I like this one.
Gloria Sanders
Yeah, which one are you going for first?
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] This is... Ella Fitzgerald.
Gloria Sanders
Brilliant.
Charles Adrian
And I love... She's one of my... She's one of my all-time favourites.
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] Yeah. Yeah.
Charles Adrian
I have lots of favourite singers but I love Ella... Ella Fitzgerald. There was a time when I thought I ought not to like her because she's too easy to like...
Gloria Sanders
Ugh, but...
Charles Adrian
... in a way.
Gloria Sanders
I know. I know what you mean.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Do you know what I mean?
Gloria Sanders
Yeah, I do.
Charles Adrian
And I thought I need to... I need to like more complicated people. I need to like people who don't have nice voices, but she just does and she knows how to sing!
Gloria Sanders
Absolutely. That's her thing. It's the technique but it's also...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Mmm.
Gloria Sanders
... it's not just technique, it's [laughs] [makes noise of satisfaction] you just...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] It just is... Agh! Yeah!
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] You've just done it there. [laughs]
Charles Adrian
No, she's wonderful. She's like, I don't know, caramel.
Gloria Sanders
Yeah.
Charles Adrian
No, that's too cheap. She's more than that.
Gloria Sanders
She's like... Oh, I don't... I can't even...
Charles Adrian
Shall we just listen?
Gloria Sanders
Let's just listen, yeah. She's like this.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] This is... This is Ella Fitzgerald singing The Lady Is A Tramp.
Music
[The Lady Is A Tramp by Ella Fitzgerald]
Charles Adrian
Ah! Amazing scrunchy chord!
Gloria Sanders
Yeah!
Charles Adrian
Now we're back on air, Gloria.
Gloria Sanders
Hello.
Charles Adrian
This is the second part of the show and, in the second part of the show, I talk about the book which I'm going to give to you.
Gloria Sanders
Oh, brilliant.
Charles Adrian
Yeah. So you can put your book away.
Gloria Sanders
[laughs] I will.
Charles Adrian
This is... This is The... The Diving Bell And The Butterfly by Jean-Dominique Bauby.
Gloria Sanders
Ah...
Charles Adrian
Did you ever read this?
Gloria Sanders
I... Do you know, I didn't ever read it. I saw the film and...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Oh!
Gloria Sanders
... this is... this is... Oh, brilliant! Adrian!
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] I didn't see the film. Aha? Well, here we go. This... I... I'm... It's interesting - I hadn't, sort of, realised this - I got this in 1997.
Gloria Sanders
Wow.
Charles Adrian
This is when the book was published and that's, I think, when it was written. So this... this is probably a first edition of the translation of the book. And I remember reading it at the time...
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] Did you read it in French? I bet you did. [laughs]
Charles Adrian
No, no, no, [laughing] I read it in English.
Gloria Sanders
[laughing] Okay.
Charles Adrian
I'm not averse to a little showing off but...
Gloria Sanders
[laughs]
Charles Adrian
... in those days... But I did... I remember... I remember really enjoying it and I was surprised at how much... I think... Somebody must have bought it for me...
Gloria Sanders
[affirmative] Mmm.
Charles Adrian
... and I probably read it because... because of that. I thought I ought to read it and I thought: Oh god, it's going to be some awful, kind of, hard work tale. And I remember being surprised by how light and beautiful...
Gloria Sanders
[affirmative] Mmm.
Charles Adrian
... it was. And it's a very... it's a very poetic book, but it's really... as far as I remember - I haven't... I haven't had time to reread it since but I will probably get myself a new copy now with the excuse that I've given you this copy...
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] I... It feels mad that you're giving me this beautiful copy.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] No. No. I want you... I want you to have...
Gloria Sanders
Aw...
Charles Adrian
... the copy that I read. I remember... Yeah, I remember just finding it... It's a celebration of... of life. It's a celebration...
Gloria Sanders
[affirmative] Mmm.
Charles Adrian
... of everything that happens around him that he is aware of, that he can see, that he can... Yeah. That's... That's where I bury myself in clichés. There... It's a lovely book.
Gloria Sanders
Oh, Adrian, that's really... Oh that's beautiful of you.
Charles Adrian
I'm going to read you the first page.
Gloria Sanders
Aw! I'm going to cry!
Charles Adrian
Prologue
THROUGH THE FRAYED curtain at my window a wan glow announces the break of day. My heels hurt, my head weighs a ton, and something like a giant invisible diving-bell holds my whole body prisoner. My room emerges slowly from the gloom. I linger over every item: photos of loved ones, my children's drawings, posters, the little tin cyclist sent by a friend the day before the Paris - Roubaix bike race, and the IV pole overhanging the bed where I have been confined these past six months like a hermit crab dug into his rock.
No need to wonder very long where I am, or to recall that the life I once knew was snuffed out on Friday, 8 December, last year.
Up until then I had never even heard of the brain-stem. I've since learned that it is an essential component of our internal computer, the inseparable link between the brain and the spinal cord. I was brutally introduced to this vital...
And then...
Gloria Sanders
Oh!
Charles Adrian
And then the story starts.
Gloria Sanders
Thank you so much...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] So there you go.
Gloria Sanders
... Adrian. That's so lovely.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] It is... There is something magic about that.... that door opening, I think.
Gloria Sanders
[affirmative] Mmm.
Charles Adrian
You... You get a little... From the... You know, from this book which... which is evidence of so much patience on his part and on his wife's part to give us the view from the bed, as it were. You know, you would never be able to get... You couldn't have a conversation this meaningful with somebody who had so few means of communication but you can collect it in a book and then you find out.
Gloria Sanders
Yeah.
Charles Adrian
I think that's amazing.
Gloria Sanders
I think you're right. Isn't it... It's the patience, actually. You've just put your...
Charles Adrian
Yeah.
Gloria Sanders
... finger on it. It's about patience. Hi... Himself and the people... you know, his wife and... perseverance, persistence...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] That's right.
Gloria Sanders
... and patience. The three P's.
Charles Adrian
The three P's.
Gloria and Charles Adrian
[laughter]
Gloria Sanders
[affirmative] Mmm.
Charles Adrian
Let's... Shall we listen to your... Let's have a little jingle...
Gloria Sanders
Yeah.
Charles Adrian
... and then we're going to listen to your second track.
Gloria Sanders
Brilliant.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Hang on. I'm not even going to switch off the microphones. I'm just going to play over the top.
Jingle
London Fields Radio...
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] All right. Okay.
Jingle
... it's London Fields Radio.
Gloria Sanders
[laughs]
Charles Adrian
That felt wild.
Gloria Sanders
Organic. [laughs]
Charles Adrian
This is... This is by Johnny Cash and June Carter Cash. And it's Jackson.
Music
[Jackson by Johnny Cash and June Carter Cash]
Charles Adrian
So that was Jackson by Johnny Cash and June Carter Cash. Gloria, what have you brought for me?
Gloria Sanders
So, Adrian, I was really so excited about coming to see you - coming to seeing you! [laughs] - and so I was just, you know, wandering around and that and I popped into one of those little Oxfam bookshop...
Charles Adrian
Right.
Gloria Sanders
... places. And I know that you quite like books. And I was listening to one of the shows the other week where you... you...
Charles Adrian
[laughing] Oh, that's very kind of you.
Gloria Sanders
Yeah, you...
Charles Adrian
You're one of my listeners!
Gloria Sanders
Yeah!
Gloria and Charles Adrian
[laughter]
Gloria Sanders
... you read - You've got to what you're getting into, haven't you!
Charles Adrian
[laughs]
Gloria Sanders
[in something of a music hall accent] Can't call myself an explorer if I've not even explored London Fields Radio! [in her normal accent] So you read out the information about the typesetting of one of the books...
Charles Adrian
Oh, that's right!
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] ... and it made me laugh...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Yeah, I can't remember what book that was now. Yes!
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] ... because I had just finished The Stranger - Camus - in a very old version, and it said...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Ah.
Gloria Sanders
... and it had a little paragraph about the typesetting. It was apparently in... in Janson, which makes it easy to read and it's just the way it was written...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Oh right.
Gloria Sanders
... and it made me laugh. So I thought: Okay, Adrian appreciates old stuff. So, I found this and I thought... And it's actually... [laughing] it's quite hard for me to give it to you because I've been reading it a bit like a bible on... on journeys...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] It looks like a very small bible.
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] I know. It does, doesn't it. It's one of those amazing... So I'll just describe it. It's green and it's, kind of, thin hardback...
[thump of something hitting the microphone]
Gloria Sanders
Oh, sorry... and it's got...
Charles Adrian
No, it's not as heavy as it sounds when you...
Gloria Sanders
No.
Charles Adrian
... make that noise [indisctinct].
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] It's a bit clunky there. So on the first page...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] [gasps] Wow.
Gloria Sanders
... you will see - and do you want to read what it says?
Charles Adrian
It says “Essays First And Second Series of [sic] Ralph Waldo Emerson”.
Gloria Sanders
And they're...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] I've never read anything by Emerson.
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] Oh... No, I hadn't either. And then, once I started reading, I was unsure why I had never read anything because he is... he's a...
Charles Adrian
It's a beautiful book.
Gloria Sanders
... bloomin' genius. He's like a sage.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Is he?
Gloria Sanders
It's like he's speaking directly to your... to your functioning parts of mind. And I wanted to show you, there was a little inscription from 1928. Anyway. So it's a... it's a lovely little old book and it's just lovely. And I think the type is... it is readable.
Charles Adrian
Yes, certainly it looks readable to me.
Gloria Sanders
[affirmative] Mmm. And it's got... the chapters are things like... Let me find it for you. So there are chapters on History, Self-Reliance, Compensation, Spiritual Laws, Love, Friendship, Prudence - which I'm still not sure quite what that is - Heroism, The Over-Soul - which, kind of, makes me think of, like, waders...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Okay. The Over-Soul. Right. Yes. Yeah, exactly!
Gloria and Charles Adrian
[laughter]
Gloria Sanders
Circles and Intellect and then there's a whole... whole other series.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Goodness me.
Gloria Sanders
But I really hope you enjoy it and I hope that you might let me borrow it back off you one day. [laughs]
Charles Adrian
Yes. Well, I suspect once I've read it, I shall be a better person and will not need it anymore.
Gloria Sanders
This is true.
Charles Adrian
Why don't you read us the first page?
Gloria Sanders
Oh gosh. Okay. Which first page? Of the... Of the Essays, yeah? Okay. So we'll go: Emerson's Essays. History. This is... There are two little stanzas before the main paragraph. Okay.
There is no great and no small
To the Soul that maketh all:
And where it cometh, all things are :
And it cometh everywhere.
I am owner of the sphere,
Of the seven stars and the solar year,
Of Caesar's hand, and Plato's brain,
Of Lord Christ's heart, and Shakespeare's strain.
There is one mind common to all individual men. Every man is an inlet to the same and to all of the same. He that is once admitted to the right of reason is made a freeman of the whole estate. What Plato has thought he may think; what a saint has felt he may feel; what at any time has befallen any man he can understand. Who hath access to this universal mind is a party to all that is or can be done, for this is the only and sovereign agent.
Of the works of this mind history is the record. Its genius is illustrated by the entire series of days. Man is explicable by nothing less than all his history. Without hurry, without rest, the human spirit goes forth from the beginning to embody every faculty, every thought, every emotion, which belongs to it in...
Charles Adrian
Interesting. I think I've come across ideas of this universal mind...
Gloria Sanders
[affirmative] Mmm.
Charles Adrian
... somewhere else and I can't think where. It sounds a little rosicrucian to me.
Gloria Sanders
Oh I don't know. What's that?
Charles Adrian
There's something even slightly... especially the poem - there's something slightly masonic about the poem...
Gloria Sanders
[affirmative] Mmm.
Charles Adrian
... I thought. This, kind of... you know, mystical knowledge...
Gloria Sanders
[laughs]
Charles Adrian
... that we can... that we can access...
Gloria Sanders
Yeah.
Charles Adrian
... we can plug ourselves into.
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] I like... But I like the idea. We all know everything. We just, you know, occasionally forget.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] There's something a little bit relaxing about that, isn't there.
Gloria Sanders
Yes! It, kind of, makes, you know, the fact that I slept [laughing] a lot today...
Gloria and Charles Adrian
[laughter]
Charles Adrian
That's fine!
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] ... a little... you know, it justifies it. It's okay.
Charles Adrian
That's okay. Tomorrow you might remember how to solve world poverty or...
Gloria Sanders
Well. Yeah. [laughs]
Charles Adrian
Although that might not work, mightn't it, because somebody has to have thought it before you can plug your...
Gloria Sanders
Exac.... Exactly. Exactly, yes.
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] Oh. Okay. Yes. So it's not actually a... it's not actually an invitation for... to indolence.
Gloria Sanders
No.
Charles Adrian
No. No.
Gloria Sanders
No, that's true. You see... But you have to accept that even if you come up with it you might not be the one to... to...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] You're not the owner.
Gloria Sanders
Yeah. [laughing] Exactly.
Charles Adrian
[affirmative] Mmm. I like that idea. Oh, I... It comes up a bit in Tom Stoppard's Arcadia, where they talk about...
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] Yeah.
Charles Adrian
... they're mourning the loss of the the Library of Alexandria and I think Septimus says: All this will be rewritten. And I love that passage.
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] Yeah.
Charles Adrian
That is a very beautiful passage.
Gloria Sanders
[affirmative] Mmm.
Charles Adrian
[musing] Mmm. Well, thank you... thank you, Gloria. Thank you very much for coming.
Gloria Sanders
Thank you for having me. It's been lovely.
Charles Adrian
This is... This has been the 10th edition of - well, the 10th Second Hand Book Factory - it's been the 17th edition of Page One. I should say that you've been listening to London Fields Radio, just in case you've forgotten. What else do I need to...? I'm Charles Adrian, you're Gloria Sanders. I feel like...
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] Yeah.
Charles Adrian
... there's a lot of stuff I need to... because I forget to say important things.
Gloria Sanders
Kind of, like, parish notices kind of thing.
Charles Adrian
A little bit, yes. [laughing] A little bit, yes.
Gloria Sanders
[laughing] What have you got to...? Has... Has Ben from down the road got to make sure his sheep are out the way for... for Friday?
Charles Adrian
Let's pretend that he does.
Gloria Sanders
Yeah?
Charles Adrian
Get that done, Ben...
Gloria Sanders
Yeah.
Charles Adrian
... while we listen to the track that's going to play us out. This I thought of because... Because you chose Ella Fitzgerald earlier I thought: There are a lot of singers of that ilk - I don't even know what I would call the genre because, I mean, you can call them jazz singers but that seems a little too... - anyway, singers of that ilk that I like and... and I realised I haven't played enough Billie Holiday...
Gloria Sanders
Ah...
Charles Adrian
... on my show and she is really... yeah, along with Ella Fitzgerald, is one of these people who... every now and then I feel the need to listen to something by Billie Holiday just to... just to make things all right again.
Gloria Sanders
Yeah, there's a certain tone to her voice, isn't there, that just...
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] There is. She knows.
Gloria Sanders
She understands.
Charles Adrian
She's plugged into the universal mind, I think.
Gloria Sanders
[speaking over] Exactly.
Charles Adrian
And this is... I love this song. This is... This is One For My Baby.
Gloria Sanders
Hooray!
Charles Adrian
[speaking over] So thank you Gloria. Thank you so much for coming in.
Gloria Sanders
It's been a pleasure.
Charles Adrian
And, to play us out, here's Billie... Billie - I was going to say Billy Elliot...
Gloria Sanders
[laughs]
Charles Adrian
That would be fun, wouldn't it. Here's Billie Holiday with... [laughs] with One For My Baby.
Music
[One For My Baby by Billie Holiday]
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